Thursday, November 09, 2006

The quran Challenge - 2:23

The power of religion that attract the followers is that it's GOD words to the man kind.
How can we know is it really the words of GOD or maybe it's a human ?

In Judaism,the authentication of religion is a compose of 2 parts,revelation & tradition:
Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes saw, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life; but make them known unto thy children and thy children's children; the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me: 'Assemble Me the people, and I will make them hear My words that they may learn to fear Me all the days that they live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.' (Deuteronomy 4:9-10)

In Islam,the authentication of religion is placed inside the book:
If you have any doubt regarding what we revealed to our servant, then produce one sura like these, and call upon your own witnesses against GOD, if you are truthful. (2:23)

What does this challenge means?
Ever since the Quran was revealed, fourteen centuries ago, no one has been able to produce a single chapter like the chapters of the Quran in their beauty, eloquence, splendor, wise legislation, true information, true prophecy, and other perfect attributes. (

This challenge is problematic in 3 aspects:
1.The criterion's
- what should we measure? beauty? how can we measure beauty? beauty is in the eye of the behold,it's something subjective!
2.The judges - if we measure the poetry,only those who are specialists in poetry can decide,so how can the simple man that doesn't know or even doesn't understand poetry decide?should he trust the specialists?should he found his believes on other person opinion???
3.The language - the book is written in Arabic, and only in Arabic one can sense the beauty of the book,so how can one that doesn't speak Arabic ,should he trust those who speak Arabic?if this book is designate to the whole world,is it make sense that the book authentication can be prove only in Arabic???

Muslims scholars,know that this is a very frail prove so they now try to authenticate the quran in other ways:
Not many would accept the Qur’aan’s extraordinarily beautiful language, as proof of its Divine origin. Any scripture claiming to be a divine revelation must also be acceptable on the strength of its own reason and logic. (


sameer said...

its awesome, amazing, true, fabulous and i wanna say lot more words which are not coming in my mind right now !!!

Adam said...

Perhaps, the beauty you speak is not the beauty of which they speak? Perhaps it is a more profound beauty...
Let us look deeper into your arguments:
1. The criteria - if it the book is perfect, as it is said to be, then it must be perfect by each and every criterion. Therefore, the subjectivity is irrelevant, and therefore this argument has no meaning.
2. The judges - they are the believers, and the non-believers. This is the same in every faith. What proof can any religion show that it is God's words?
3. The language - people speak many languages in the world, yet for some strange reason, every god, in every religion, seems to reveal himself in the language of the nation to which he is revealing himself. Surprising coincidence, is it not?

oshoval said...

adam,here's the problem:
1.Islam claim that the prove that quran is divine lay inside the book.
2.Islam claim to be international religion(Not as judaism-national religion).
3.When someone say he Read the quran not in Arabic and didn't saw any beauty in the book,the muslims say that only in Arabic you can feel the beauty.

So this is a conflict-How can someone non-Arabic know the quran is divine?Must he learn Arabic?Why?
Is ut make sence??

Adam said...

Since when does religion make sense? If Arabic is a devine language, then the believers will learn Arabic.
Not every one can climb to the top of a mountain; this does not mean that a picture taken there must be as beautiful as the actual view. If you believe that there is a creator, you should assume that there is a reason the creator made some capable of reaching the view, and others with only pictures and descriptions of the top of the mountain.

mudassir said...

Quran is the miracle for the people of mecca at the time of Prophet Muhammad because the literature at that time was at its highest glory,so it was completly impossible for an illiterate person to say something of that degree.just as at the time of moses the majic n at time of jesus health n medical procedures.Nowadays we dont have to see the beauty of the language but its contents n direction just as we dont believe moses n jesus today due to their miracles because that were for first people.n not for us .we believe Moses,Jesus,Prophet Muhammad as the prophets due to their teachings.

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mf said...

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