Thursday, February 22, 2007

2:83-85 Muhammad believed in Torah

YUSUFALI:And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but Allah; treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise regular charity. Then did ye turn back, except a few among you, and ye backslide (even now).
And remember We took your covenant (to this effect): Shed no blood amongst you, nor turn out your own people from your homes: and this ye solemnly ratified, and to this ye can bear witness.
After this it is ye, the same people, who slay among yourselves, and banish a party of you from their homes; assist (Their enemies) against them, in guilt and rancour; and if they come to you as captives, ye ransom them, though it was not lawful for you to banish them. Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest? but what is the reward for those among you who behave like this but disgrace in this life?- and on the Day of Judgment they shall be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.

What's the story behind those verses?

The Jewish tribes who lived on the outskirts of Medina had concluded an alliance with the Arab tribes of Aws and Khazraj. When the Arab tribes fought against one another each Jewish tribe fought on the side of its allies.when the war ended the captives were ransomed.

So on the one hand the Jews fight each other although it is forbidden in the Jewish law but on the other hand they ransomed the captives cause it's a very important Jewish law.

Muhammad criticize the Jews that they not following the Jewish law completeness.

What's Muhammad viewpoint about the Jewish book?



And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but Allah; treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise regular charity. Then did ye turn back, except a few among you, and ye backslide (even now). And remember We took your covenant (to this effect): Shed no blood amongst you, nor turn out your own people from your homes: and this ye solemnly ratified, and to this ye can bear witness. (2:83-84)

In those verses Muhammad call the Jews to remember the Laws that were given to them in Mount Sinai.According those laws they should fight each other.

After this it is ye, the same people, who slay among yourselves, and banish a party of you from their homes; assist (Their enemies) against them, in guilt and rancour; and if they come to you as captives, ye ransom them, though it was not lawful for you to banish them. Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest? but what is the reward for those among you who behave like this but disgrace in this life?- and on the Day of Judgment they shall be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For Allah is not unmindful of what ye do. (2:85)

In this verse Muhammad criticize the Jews not following their laws.
His words are:
Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest?

So what can we learn from this?



Muhammad believed that the Jewish book a.k.a Torah was given to the Jews by Moses,So he can't understand how they not obey the law they shouldn't fight each other!

And it confirmed in 2:87 -We gave Moses the Book ... It's the same book Muhammad talked about on 2:85,the book the Jews should believe in...

Sunday, February 18, 2007

2:79 Is Bible corrupted?

YUSUFALI:Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.

There's a debate about this verse is it say Bible is corrupted:

http://towardsislam.com/commentary2-ak47.php

Lets look at a snapshot of the Jewish world in Muhammad life:

The Jews were spread all over the world after the Romans ruined Israel,and exiled the Jews(70 AD).

The most powerful Jewish community was in Babylon-Iraq,where the Talmud was written before Muhammad days.

Each Community had their own Bible,the same bible as others communities.

So if someone what to claim that the bible was corrupted,it should happen way before 70 AD!

Now,Lets see what does the quran say?


YUSUFALI:Behold! when they meet the men of Faith, they say: "We believe": But when they meet each other in private, they say: "Shall you tell them what Allah hath revealed to you, that they may engage you in argument about it before your Lord?"- Do ye not understand (their aim)? Know they not that Allah knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal? And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book, but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby And they say: "The Fire shall not touch us but for a few numbered days:" Say: "Have ye taken a promise from Allah, for He never breaks His promise? or is it that ye say of Allah what ye do not know?" (2:76-80)

In those verses Muhammad criticize the people in his life time,he doesn't talk about the past but talk about the present of his time!If someone corrupted the bible it was way before Muhammad life,but Muhammad didn't talked about it at all!

Muhammad criticize people not the scripts!

So this verse is irrelevant to the question of whether Muhammad claimed the bible corrupted!

Sunday, February 11, 2007

2:76 What The jews hide?

Yusuf Ali :Behold! when they meet the men of Faith, they say: "We believe": But when they meet each other in private, they say: "Shall you tell them what Allah hath revealed to you, that they may engage you in argument about it before your Lord?"- Do ye not understand (their aim)?

According do Yusuf Ali ,this verse is another accusation Muhammad throw on the Jews:

The immediate argument applies to the Jews of Medina, but the more general argument applies to the people of Faith and the people without Faith, as we shall see below. If the Muslims of Medina ever entertained the hope that the Jews in their city would as a body welcome Muhammad Mustafa as the Prophet prophesied in their own books, they were mistaken. In Deut. xviii. 18, they read: "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee." (i.e., like unto Moses) which was interpreted by some of their doctores as referring to Muhammad, and they came into Islam. The Arabs are a kindred branch of the Semitic family, and are correctly described in relation to the Jews as "their brethren"; and there is no question that there was not another Prophet" like unto Moses" until Muhammad came; in fact the PostScript of Deuteronomy, which was written many centuries after Moses, says: "There arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face." But the Jews as a body were jealous of Muhammad, and played a double part. When the Muslim community began to grow stronger they pretended to be of them, but really tried to keep back any knowledge of their own Scriptures from them, lest they should be beaten by their own arguments.(Yusuf Ali's Commentary from QuranTrans)

well again we return to the ridiculous Muslims claim that the verse in Deuteronomy 18:18 is about Muhammad...

I won't write it again just read here:

http://readquran.blogspot.com/2006/12/muhammad-in-jewish-scriptures.html